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Post by ltwtlooker on Jan 8, 2008 0:20:33 GMT -5
How can the seeds look good if the ranking is in dispute?When it comes to duals meets, I don't buy the old saw that"to win 1st place you need to beat the best". We all know that in duals match-ups are everything. Therefore the seeding has a terrific impact on the finish. This year is probably the best example of the impact guesswork has in the system, where their is no clear order for the top 8. Parity is the word this year. This is the coaches season. The best coaches will win the individual duals. Then the best wrestlers will win the NCAAs. At which point we will know very little more than who was good that weekend. At this high level drawing slugs gets the politics out of it. BTW, I am not indicating bias or dishonesty. Rather I am advocating the Caesar's wife model.
Yes those guys also know more about wrestling than I do. This does not make them good judges of teams they haven't even seen. Check out the composition of the group. It is also possible, as you mentioned, that at some of their ages, they have forgotten more about wrestling than you. Go to NCAA wrestling site to see who you are talking about., Some of those guys wrestled naked covered with grease. I know, I was watching them at the Palestra.... and i don't mean Philadelphia
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Post by setonhallpirate on Jan 8, 2008 11:20:02 GMT -5
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Post by Earl on Jan 8, 2008 12:03:59 GMT -5
Thanks SHP....I have to look over them a few times before I'll comment
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Post by Earl on Jan 8, 2008 12:53:00 GMT -5
Here's a list of the ranked wrestlers that should meet in the first round...provided they show up (injuries and such)
PSU/UTC
125-Mark McKnight vs Javier Maldanado
141-Jake Strayer/Garrett Scott vs Cody Cleveland
149-Bubba Jenkins vs Joey Knox
157-Dan Vallimont vs Seth Garvin
174-David Erwin vs Lloyd Rogers
184-Phil Bomberger vs Josh Edmondson
197-Phil Davis vs Matt Koz
Neb/NW
125-Paul Donahoe vs Brandon Precin
149-Jordan Burroughs vs Ryan Lang
165-Stephen Dwyer vs Dominic Marella
174-Brandon Browne vs Nick Hayes
197-Craig Brester vs Mike Tamillow
285-Jon May vs Dustin Fox
Minn/WVU
149-Dustin Schlatter vs David Jauregui
157-CP Schaltter vs Zac Fryling
184-Roger Kish vs Kurt Brenner
Ohio State/CentMich
125-Nikko Triggas vs Luke Smith
133-Reece Humphrey vs Conor Beebe
141-Jeff Jaggers vs Eric Kruger
157-Jason Johnstone ve Tyler Grayson
184-Mike Pucillo vs Christian Sinnott
285-JD Bergman vs Bubba Gritter
ISU/Hofstra
133-Nick Fanthorpe vs Lou Ruggirello
141-Nick Gallick vs Charles Griffin
197-David Bertolino vs Joe Rovelli
UNI/Michigan
165-Moza Fay vs Eric Tannenbaum
174-Alex Dolly vs Steve Luke
184-Danny Dunning vs Tyrell Todd
197-Andrew Anderson vs Anthony Biondo
Mizz/Ind
125-Tony Pescaglia vs Angel Escobedo
133-Tyler McCormick vs Andrae Hernandez
157-Mike Chandler vs Brandon Becker
165-Nick Marable vs Matt Coughlin
184-Raymond Jordan vs Marc Bennett
Cornell/Iowa
133-Mike Grey vs Joey Slaton
Adam Frey 141/149 vs Iowa
157-Jordan Leen vs Ryan Morningstar
165-Mack Lewnes vs Mark Perry
174-Steve Anceravage vs Jay Borschel
285-Zach Hammond vs Matt Fields
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jfs
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Post by jfs on Jan 8, 2008 18:32:34 GMT -5
Earl, I agree about Nebraska. They are a sleeper. They got a good draw, if they bring their A game. Would love to make a long shot bet on that one! As far as the seeds are concerned I wrote them as the General wrote them. The Old Coach ( 79 yrs.) did not do to bad on the call. He never ceases to amaze me. ( I.E. the Iowa and Oklahoma St. Dual ) . This should be a great tournement. The General will be there, bad eyes and all. UNI is where he went to school and wrestled.
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Post by unihawk on Jan 9, 2008 11:27:16 GMT -5
enough about seeding, who is everyone's prediction to win the national duals, and will anyone be attending?
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Post by willyman57 on Jan 9, 2008 12:33:07 GMT -5
Nebraska is untested and an unknown at best. They haven't wrestled anyone in the top 10 except Minny and lost that one. Can they win, maybe, but I don't see them winning it all.
My best guess is Iowa or Minnesota! But the hawks will surely have to step it up a couple notches from their effort last weekend. They looked flat and uninspired against OSU, except for Metcalf and Keddy! But if the Hawks are back in the saddle everyone better look out!
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Post by yankeekev on Jan 9, 2008 21:32:30 GMT -5
Okay, I'll take Nebraska as the upset winner of the whole enchilada. The chic picks are left for everyone else.
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Post by yankeekev on Jan 12, 2008 22:40:08 GMT -5
I like my pick more and more. Nebraska is tough.
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Post by jfs on Jan 14, 2008 22:27:22 GMT -5
Nebraska did real well. Of course people said Nebraska is unknown. Well the huskers jumped up real well. But, Iowa is like a machine from space. I congratulate Iowa, and I say well done. You Are in conditon well beyond the rest of the pack.
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